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sábado, 25 de dezembro de 2010

A KEERAN Indestructo pen and an identical WAHL #6, both in red hard rubber That´s the only KEERAN pen I saw and the only information I found is on the two articles link below.And more .... , Monitor, Olympian , Penrite, and no name also made by Wahl







Two  #6 Olympian, a #6 Wahl and a #6 Keeran ( all Wahl made pens )


Luis, that should be "Indestructo", not "Indestructa". George Kovalenko.On 3/6/11.
You right George.It's already corrected.  Thank you very much. Anyway I'd like to have your opinion about this pen because as far as I know, Charles Keeran was not anymore  in the company at this time! Or am I wrong? Luiz



Luiz:
The pen is very interesting, but it provides more questions than answers. We do know that Keeran had a complex relationship with Wahl: he felt that they had not treated him fairly, yet he continued to do business with the company for an extended period.

How Wahl viewed Keeran is less clear. I would think that they looked upon him as someone to be handled with some care. There is reason to believe that they didn't think much of his ability to run a business, yet at the same time, had the deepest regard for his abilities as a market reader and inventor. If so, they would have wanted to maintain enough of a connection to prevent him developing (or being developed, through partners) into a dangerous competitor. The provision of Wahl-made pens for him to sell as Keeran products surely must have been rooted in this strategy. Perhaps a certain number of these pens were offered at some point as a settlement, in lieu of a cash payment.

DAVID NISHIMURA



A #6 Wahl rosewood pen and another similar one, not marked but fitted with a Skyline "like" eversharp nib !!! A custom order ?????




Two Paramount, two Monitor and a black lined hard rubber Penrite pen. Look to the similarities of clips, levers, sections and nibs, on the next photos and take your conclusions!














More Monitor pens , this time in plastic .




Some Eversharp pencils with different clips but , three of them with Monitor "like" clips !!!!!




Posted by Don Lavin on August 4, 2011, 10:07 pm, in reply to "Some unsual WAHL pens , for sure, but.... NOT marked!!!!!!!!"




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We have discussed these pens for quite some time now on various boards. These are sub-brands made by Wahl. There are also a number of additional pens which are similar, such as the Olympian. They are found in black hard rubber and red hard rubber. One big key to their being Wahl products are the lever boxes. They are the same as on Wahl Eversharp gold seal etc. pens.
The trim and clip are different from the typical WE pens but look like the trim and clip on these first 2 pens. And the nibs - with the heart shaped vent hole.

Around 1982 I had the opportunity to interview a very elderly former Wahl employee. The first question I posed to him concerned those nibs which I found frequently in the Chicago area. He looked at the nibs and immediately told me that they were made here in Chicago by Wahl. End of that discussion.

Of note is the fact that none of us veteran WE collectors have been able to produce one catalog or ad showing these pens. Virtually no literature has turned up and this includes Cliff Harrington and the Wahlnut. Always nice to see a discussion on vintage pens. Don







http://www.unl.edu/Bolin_resources/pencil_page/keeran/index.htm
http://www.vintagepens.com/Eversharp_history.htm

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mike disse...

This is interesting. Aikin and Waterman must have used the same machinery to make their pens, as evidenced by the pens being similar. To save money, the clips are fastened the same way, the lever boxes in the same place, etc. The modified each a little bit, but obviously, they did not have to reinvent the entire design of the clips, levers, etc. Likewise, Conklin and Spencerians have many similar features, but were made with the same Conklin machinery.