I did a research on the web and in my books and only on the Fischler and Schneider second book ( page #20 ) I found a similar pen with a BRIGGS nib but in black hard rubber!
Now the questions are:
1 - what were these pens ? A real pen maker brand or someone who bought parts from another company and made them under this name ? Or it was a pen made for instance by A.A. Waterman ( as I said before the quality is outstanding ) as a special customer order ?
As a matter of fact the nib of my pen , the A.A. Waterman nib doesn't look as a replacement nib but as the original one !
2 - Is there any other pen collector who have in his or her pen collection a similar pen or saw any article about this "brand" ?
And now the pics:
The pen
Next two pics: the nib and the feeder Next pics: the photos on the Fischler and Schneider second book Compare the shape of the barrel's end Compare the shape of the sections |
Luiz:
Here are some things about the Briggs pen that you can use in
your blog.
"About the only information on the pen company is to be found
in the Fischler and Schneider brown book, the second book.
Perhaps Briggs was an assembler of pens from parts made by
others, but he may also have been a gold nib maker who made
his own nibs, and had just the fountain pen parts made for him. I
think it's safe to call the pen a Briggs pen, pending more
information on the maker. It could have been made by someone
else who was using whatever nibs he could get. It's probably not
a real penmaker brand by A. A. Waterman, or Carey, because
they would have put their own company name on the pen.
"The one really telling detail on the pen is the threads. First of all,
they are on the section, not the barrel, and more importantly,
they are raised threads, not flush with the section. The pen is a
crossover pen, a marriage of the earlier style of straight-cap
eyedropper pen with a large step between the section and the
barrel, and the newer style of pens with threaded caps. Threaded
caps didn't appear on pens until the early safety eyedropper
pens in the mid-1890s, and the first ordinary eyedropper pens
with threaded caps that screwed onto the barrels, and thus were
said to have safety caps, started around 1905. All these early
"Safety" pens, no matter what type, had raised threads. Since
this pen has raised threads, I would say it's from the latter part of
this era, sometime around 1905-15. Perhaps it tends toward the
beginning of this period, sometime around the early to mid-
1900s, because it still looks like an old-fashioned, straight-cap
eyedropper pen."
Sincerely,
George Kovalenko
Another BRIGGS pen........
One night when I was leaving to have dinner , during the 2013 LA Pen Show David Nishimura approach from me in the Marriot hotel lobby and asked me if I was interested in this pen. As you can see it is a similar BRIGGS pen but in the BHR version and with a cracked cap. The cap is imprinted and also the nib. Despite the craked cap I told him that I was interested on the pen and we close the deal.Here is the pen.
your blog.
"About the only information on the pen company is to be found
in the Fischler and Schneider brown book, the second book.
Perhaps Briggs was an assembler of pens from parts made by
others, but he may also have been a gold nib maker who made
his own nibs, and had just the fountain pen parts made for him. I
think it's safe to call the pen a Briggs pen, pending more
information on the maker. It could have been made by someone
else who was using whatever nibs he could get. It's probably not
a real penmaker brand by A. A. Waterman, or Carey, because
they would have put their own company name on the pen.
"The one really telling detail on the pen is the threads. First of all,
they are on the section, not the barrel, and more importantly,
they are raised threads, not flush with the section. The pen is a
crossover pen, a marriage of the earlier style of straight-cap
eyedropper pen with a large step between the section and the
barrel, and the newer style of pens with threaded caps. Threaded
caps didn't appear on pens until the early safety eyedropper
pens in the mid-1890s, and the first ordinary eyedropper pens
with threaded caps that screwed onto the barrels, and thus were
said to have safety caps, started around 1905. All these early
"Safety" pens, no matter what type, had raised threads. Since
this pen has raised threads, I would say it's from the latter part of
this era, sometime around 1905-15. Perhaps it tends toward the
beginning of this period, sometime around the early to mid-
1900s, because it still looks like an old-fashioned, straight-cap
eyedropper pen."
Sincerely,
George Kovalenko
Another BRIGGS pen........
One night when I was leaving to have dinner , during the 2013 LA Pen Show David Nishimura approach from me in the Marriot hotel lobby and asked me if I was interested in this pen. As you can see it is a similar BRIGGS pen but in the BHR version and with a cracked cap. The cap is imprinted and also the nib. Despite the craked cap I told him that I was interested on the pen and we close the deal.Here is the pen.
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